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		<title>Comment on Catching Up: USA 7&#8242;s, Grand Prix Rugby, College Ball, and More by workingclassrugger</title>
		<link>http://rugbyamerica.net/2012/02/13/catching-up-usa-7s-grand-prix-rugby-college-ball-and-more/#comment-1583</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[workingclassrugger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, they clearly see greater commercial opportunities in the Seven man format and it would certainly would provide a better fit for the ambitions in terms of revenue generation that they have previously made public.

I just think it would provide better businesses synergies for some sort of co-operative agreement to be achieved. That said, having two separate entities could work out more to the benefit of each over time. It all depends on the delivery.

There seems to be some really fascinating pro league talk emerging. On the Ruggamatrix America podcast the IRB&#039;s Development Management Mark Egan, comments on the 15s proposal. What I think is promising and it&#039;s in agreement with the likes of Goff and co. on the podcast. Is that this group are keeping details close to their chests until they are ready to release more detail. Suggests, at least from my perspective, a far greater level of consideration and planning. Additionally, I keep hearing phrases such as, &#039;deep pockets&#039;, &#039;of significant means&#039; and &#039; prominent and invested&#039; in relations to the yet unknown individuals behind this plan. The term &#039;able to buy anyone&#039; has also emerged. I am really interested to learn of who exactly these guys are.

Something that I find rather encouraging about the GPR group since the original announcement. Initially, their plans were very ambitious but the fact they have quietly gone about their business building the team needed for the concept is really encouraging.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, they clearly see greater commercial opportunities in the Seven man format and it would certainly would provide a better fit for the ambitions in terms of revenue generation that they have previously made public.</p>
<p>I just think it would provide better businesses synergies for some sort of co-operative agreement to be achieved. That said, having two separate entities could work out more to the benefit of each over time. It all depends on the delivery.</p>
<p>There seems to be some really fascinating pro league talk emerging. On the Ruggamatrix America podcast the IRB&#8217;s Development Management Mark Egan, comments on the 15s proposal. What I think is promising and it&#8217;s in agreement with the likes of Goff and co. on the podcast. Is that this group are keeping details close to their chests until they are ready to release more detail. Suggests, at least from my perspective, a far greater level of consideration and planning. Additionally, I keep hearing phrases such as, &#8216;deep pockets&#8217;, &#8216;of significant means&#8217; and &#8216; prominent and invested&#8217; in relations to the yet unknown individuals behind this plan. The term &#8216;able to buy anyone&#8217; has also emerged. I am really interested to learn of who exactly these guys are.</p>
<p>Something that I find rather encouraging about the GPR group since the original announcement. Initially, their plans were very ambitious but the fact they have quietly gone about their business building the team needed for the concept is really encouraging.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Catching Up: USA 7&#8242;s, Grand Prix Rugby, College Ball, and More by RugbyAmerica</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RugbyAmerica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can say with confidence that the people at Grand Prix have no interest in the 15-man game. Over the years I have heard that multiple times from multiple sources within their camp. Who knows what could happen down the road though? The almighty $$$ has a way of changing things and if 15&#039;s can prove to be a money maker (in the USA), then I&#039;m sure attitudes can be changed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can say with confidence that the people at Grand Prix have no interest in the 15-man game. Over the years I have heard that multiple times from multiple sources within their camp. Who knows what could happen down the road though? The almighty $$$ has a way of changing things and if 15&#8242;s can prove to be a money maker (in the USA), then I&#8217;m sure attitudes can be changed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Catching Up: USA 7&#8242;s, Grand Prix Rugby, College Ball, and More by workingclassrugger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[workingclassrugger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 02:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good to hear something more from the GPR group after some time of dead silence in their regards. Quite an exciting time for Rugby in the US with hopefully both this and the mooted Pro 15&#039;s group getting up and running in the near future. With all the expertise within GPR and the inevitable plans commercially in regards TV and such, I wonder if the group behind the 15s concept should look to align themselves with the GPR group. Sell Rugby (Union) in both forms as a package. Could be worthwhile.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to hear something more from the GPR group after some time of dead silence in their regards. Quite an exciting time for Rugby in the US with hopefully both this and the mooted Pro 15&#8242;s group getting up and running in the near future. With all the expertise within GPR and the inevitable plans commercially in regards TV and such, I wonder if the group behind the 15s concept should look to align themselves with the GPR group. Sell Rugby (Union) in both forms as a package. Could be worthwhile.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pro Rugby Talk: The Real Deal or More Hot Air? by anobleman</title>
		<link>http://rugbyamerica.net/2012/01/09/pro-rugby-talk-the-real-deal-or-more-hot-air/#comment-1580</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 23:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If ONLY, Ted!

Great news facility. Well done!

Terence]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If ONLY, Ted!</p>
<p>Great news facility. Well done!</p>
<p>Terence</p>
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		<title>Comment on Catching Up: USA 7&#8242;s, Grand Prix Rugby, College Ball, and More by RugbyAmerica</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 13:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clay, if rugby follows the other Olympic formats then it could be three pools of 4 teams with the Top 8 teams from the pool stage moving onto the knockout round. That is how hockey is formatted. Basketball, on the other hand, uses two pools of 6 teams. Given the rigors of rugby, I&#039;m guessing they&#039;ll use three pools of 4 to cut back on the number of pool games. Regardless, the Olympic rugby tournament is going to be insanely difficult. The winner will have truely earnered their gold. And yes, right now we are in big trouble. Qualification is probably only two years away and the Americas will get two bids, at the most, given that Brazil will get an automatic hosting bid. 

Matt, it is hard to say at this point what final conclusion GPR came to with the competition. I have seen it change multiple times over the years. Things could have really changed now that they are using a more worldwide approach.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clay, if rugby follows the other Olympic formats then it could be three pools of 4 teams with the Top 8 teams from the pool stage moving onto the knockout round. That is how hockey is formatted. Basketball, on the other hand, uses two pools of 6 teams. Given the rigors of rugby, I&#8217;m guessing they&#8217;ll use three pools of 4 to cut back on the number of pool games. Regardless, the Olympic rugby tournament is going to be insanely difficult. The winner will have truely earnered their gold. And yes, right now we are in big trouble. Qualification is probably only two years away and the Americas will get two bids, at the most, given that Brazil will get an automatic hosting bid. </p>
<p>Matt, it is hard to say at this point what final conclusion GPR came to with the competition. I have seen it change multiple times over the years. Things could have really changed now that they are using a more worldwide approach.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Catching Up: USA 7&#8242;s, Grand Prix Rugby, College Ball, and More by MattD</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 22:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s awesome! I truly hope it&#039;s a couple of weeks. I think last spring they said they&#039;d announce it in October and that came and went. 

That site originally had 4 US cities listed on it before they took it down. I know for sure LA, New York and Chicago were three of them, but I cant remember if Dallas or Atlanta was the 4th. Either way, I then wonder who the other cities will be and how many will there be... If the US has 4, then Im guessing Toronto and Vancouver will also be on that list. And if that&#039;s the case this could turn into a 28 to 32 team competition and quick. Think of all the rugby playing countries and if we (USA) have 4 teams then I&#039;m guessing New Zealand, South Africa and Australia would all have 2 to 3 a piece. Then you start adding in Europe and I count 8 or so there. What about Japan and China.... Russia... Where does the list stop. Its really exciting to think about. 

Here&#039;s a list I came up with of possible team locations... I cannot wait to see where the teams are placed and how many there will be. Im guessing 16, but don&#039;t know how you can do that if you have 4 of them in the U.S. Maybe it will be bigger and they&#039;ll split the conference like Northern and Southern Hemispheres... this is going to be nuts.... I hope its as cool as I&#039;m picturing. 

Chicago - USA
Dallas -USA
Los Angeles - USA
New York - USA
Toronto	 - Canada
Vancouver - Canada
Buenos Aires - Argentina
Sao Paulo - Brazil

Auckland - New Zealand
Christchurch - New Zealand
Wellington - New Zealand
Cape Town - South Africa
Johannesburg - South Africa
Brisbane - Australia
Melborurne - Australia
Sydney - Australia

Paris - France
Dublin - Ireland
Milan - Italy
Barcelona - Spain
London - UK
Manchester - UK
Edinburgh - Scotland
Cardiff - Wales

Hong Kong - China
Tokyo - Japan
Moscow - Russia]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s awesome! I truly hope it&#8217;s a couple of weeks. I think last spring they said they&#8217;d announce it in October and that came and went. </p>
<p>That site originally had 4 US cities listed on it before they took it down. I know for sure LA, New York and Chicago were three of them, but I cant remember if Dallas or Atlanta was the 4th. Either way, I then wonder who the other cities will be and how many will there be&#8230; If the US has 4, then Im guessing Toronto and Vancouver will also be on that list. And if that&#8217;s the case this could turn into a 28 to 32 team competition and quick. Think of all the rugby playing countries and if we (USA) have 4 teams then I&#8217;m guessing New Zealand, South Africa and Australia would all have 2 to 3 a piece. Then you start adding in Europe and I count 8 or so there. What about Japan and China&#8230;. Russia&#8230; Where does the list stop. Its really exciting to think about. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a list I came up with of possible team locations&#8230; I cannot wait to see where the teams are placed and how many there will be. Im guessing 16, but don&#8217;t know how you can do that if you have 4 of them in the U.S. Maybe it will be bigger and they&#8217;ll split the conference like Northern and Southern Hemispheres&#8230; this is going to be nuts&#8230;. I hope its as cool as I&#8217;m picturing. </p>
<p>Chicago &#8211; USA<br />
Dallas -USA<br />
Los Angeles &#8211; USA<br />
New York &#8211; USA<br />
Toronto	 &#8211; Canada<br />
Vancouver &#8211; Canada<br />
Buenos Aires &#8211; Argentina<br />
Sao Paulo &#8211; Brazil</p>
<p>Auckland &#8211; New Zealand<br />
Christchurch &#8211; New Zealand<br />
Wellington &#8211; New Zealand<br />
Cape Town &#8211; South Africa<br />
Johannesburg &#8211; South Africa<br />
Brisbane &#8211; Australia<br />
Melborurne &#8211; Australia<br />
Sydney &#8211; Australia</p>
<p>Paris &#8211; France<br />
Dublin &#8211; Ireland<br />
Milan &#8211; Italy<br />
Barcelona &#8211; Spain<br />
London &#8211; UK<br />
Manchester &#8211; UK<br />
Edinburgh &#8211; Scotland<br />
Cardiff &#8211; Wales</p>
<p>Hong Kong &#8211; China<br />
Tokyo &#8211; Japan<br />
Moscow &#8211; Russia</p>
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		<title>Comment on Catching Up: USA 7&#8242;s, Grand Prix Rugby, College Ball, and More by Clay</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 21:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What worries me is that the Olympics will only take 12 teams, which I find to be weird in the first place. I&#039;m curious how the games will be formatted with only 12 teams. 16 just seems logical. But no matter, If they only take 12 teams and only 2 from the Americas then we are in trouble with a capital T. And the qualifying process will start sooner than 2016, so we better turn this team around, and quick! 

I agree that a couple of the youngsters have talent, but in my eyes they just don&#039;t stack up to New Zealand, Fiji, Samoa and some of the other teams in terms of size, power and speed. We look like a darn high school football team playing against Alabama sometimes. I want Thretton and Ebner on this team NOW. I&#039;m so tired of these guys looking towards the NFL. They were born to play rugby and we need to get their butts on the pitch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What worries me is that the Olympics will only take 12 teams, which I find to be weird in the first place. I&#8217;m curious how the games will be formatted with only 12 teams. 16 just seems logical. But no matter, If they only take 12 teams and only 2 from the Americas then we are in trouble with a capital T. And the qualifying process will start sooner than 2016, so we better turn this team around, and quick! </p>
<p>I agree that a couple of the youngsters have talent, but in my eyes they just don&#8217;t stack up to New Zealand, Fiji, Samoa and some of the other teams in terms of size, power and speed. We look like a darn high school football team playing against Alabama sometimes. I want Thretton and Ebner on this team NOW. I&#8217;m so tired of these guys looking towards the NFL. They were born to play rugby and we need to get their butts on the pitch.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Catching Up: USA 7&#8242;s, Grand Prix Rugby, College Ball, and More by RugbyAmerica</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clay, you are correct, I believe Mike is 29. He&#039;s been around the 7&#039;s squad for years and I&#039;m happy to see him still being considered although he&#039;ll likely age out before the Olympics. With Matt Hawkins taking a step back, the Eagles need a veteran presence in the lineup. Palefau can be that guy. The youngsters have talent, it is just going to take some time to develop. Time that I&#039;m not sure we have. I&#039;d rather have them cutting their teeth on a sub-international level. 

Going back to Matt D&#039;s question. I was in touch with their new media relations guy and Grand Prix is not ready to release the exact details on the rugby series. A formal announcement is expected in the coming weeks. I had been getting hints for the past few months that they were close to a big announcement, so hopefully it won&#039;t be much longer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clay, you are correct, I believe Mike is 29. He&#8217;s been around the 7&#8242;s squad for years and I&#8217;m happy to see him still being considered although he&#8217;ll likely age out before the Olympics. With Matt Hawkins taking a step back, the Eagles need a veteran presence in the lineup. Palefau can be that guy. The youngsters have talent, it is just going to take some time to develop. Time that I&#8217;m not sure we have. I&#8217;d rather have them cutting their teeth on a sub-international level. </p>
<p>Going back to Matt D&#8217;s question. I was in touch with their new media relations guy and Grand Prix is not ready to release the exact details on the rugby series. A formal announcement is expected in the coming weeks. I had been getting hints for the past few months that they were close to a big announcement, so hopefully it won&#8217;t be much longer.</p>
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